While still thinking about this industry, an extremely handy and small change, would be to allow Rorquals to compress gas into liquid form to reduce bulk for transportation.

What do you guys think about my idea for a new mod?

Remote harvesting link
Description: a remote projection device that reduces the targets gas harvestor cycle time. Can only be fitted to the ORE frigate.

+ reduces harvestor cycle time by 10%
+ 5km optimal range
+ only one of these modules can be used on the target ship
+ uses mid slot

The key thing is that it creates a reason to mine in a group which would also be a nicer target for hunters.

Hey folks, just quickly passing by to tell you the Gas Cloud Harvesting amount bonus on this ship has been swapped for a Gas Cloud Harvesting duration reduction to account for your comments on the skill progression that didn't scale well. It also makes the ship a bit more viable with fully trained skills, as it increases its output from 5 theoretical gas harvesters to 5.33.

Any word as to the change to cycle time for harvesting gas over yeild per level? Cause, a thorax can still out harvest an ORE Frig for gas sites in a wormhole.

Hey folks, just quickly passing by to tell you the Gas Cloud Harvesting amount bonus on this ship has been swapped for a Gas Cloud Harvesting duration reduction to account for your comments on the skill progression that didn't scale well. It also makes the ship a bit more viable with fully trained skills, as it increases its output from 5 theoretical gas harvesters to 5.33.

Hey folks, just quickly passing by to tell you the Gas Cloud Harvesting amount bonus on this ship has been swapped for a Gas Cloud Harvesting duration reduction to account for your comments on the skill progression that didn't scale well. It also makes the ship a bit more viable with fully trained skills, as it increases its output from 5 theoretical gas harvesters to 5.33.

Mining frigate skill bonuses:
+5% to mining yield per level
+5% to gas harvesting yield per level
Role bonuses:
+100% to mining yield
+100% to gas harvesting yield
+ 2 warp core stabilizer bonus

Are we finished with that "+2 warp strength is overpowered" discussion yet? Cause I think we should not be! Cause it is!

It occurs to me that the gas mining bonus shows a need to adjust what the gas mining skill does.

I don't have any specific suggestion, but unless a barge-class gas miner is in planning there will be no reason for anyone to train gas mining past level 2.

What CCP needs to understand is that this ship as it is currently thought through is a let down for those of us that heard "gas cloud bonused harvester" What we expected was something better than out current 5 tech II gas harvestors on our cane with 3K of hold. If you have ever sat in a WH taking down a cloud of C540 you will understand why we want something that does more than 100m3 of gas in a cycle.

CCP you missed the boat...literally, since this one is not any better then at least give me a gas cloud strip miner for my mining barges.. give me something that acutally is bonused to improve the speed of harvesting beyond a combat ship pressed into the role of gas miner. It is truely sad that combat ships are the best and fastest gas harvestors around. They are even better when you also realize you can put a mining link on them than this little frigate, which I was looking forward to.

Ore hold.... ore hold should allow gas in all ships, and gas should be able to be compressed in my rorq. Ok, so C540 is really the top of the concern there, but it would be nice.

From a WH industrialist.

And yes, folks, despite its name, gas is automatically harvested into the Ore hold. Wanted to file a bug report to CCP Tuxford in case it didn't, but he was quite clever and implemented that ahead of time during the mining barge changes Clever girl.

Hey folks, just quickly passing by to tell you the Gas Cloud Harvesting amount bonus on this ship has been swapped for a Gas Cloud Harvesting duration reduction to account for your comments on the skill progression that didn't scale well. It also makes the ship a bit more viable with fully trained skills, as it increases its output from 5 theoretical gas harvesters to 5.33.

I have been able to fit a cloak. Haven't tried a probe launcher or a tractor beam.

From earlier in this thread:


Post # 266:

Once you have Mining Frigate 5, this ship is much more viable than a Ferox or Hurricane -- and has a 5,000 m3 Ore/Gas hold to boot!

Once I finish training Mining Frig 5 (5 more days), I will post some base 'test' results comparing a BC with a Mining Frig while doing Gas Cloud harvesting.

Did some playing around and a Core Probe Launcher I easily fits in that third high slot.

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I have fit the following in the High Utility slot (some of these would be for baiting or lol's) :
- Core Probe Launcher II - Expanded Core Probe Lnchr doesn't fit CPU-wise
- Small Tractor Beam II
- Small Smartbomb II
- Small Nosferatu II
- Small Energy Neut II
- Drone Link Augmentor I

There are plenty of other things to put in that utility slot, be creative!